More Than the Sum of the Parts - Episode 7 of Unbuffered
In this episode of Unbuffered, Chris is joined by Neil Chilson, head of AI policy at the Abundance Institute and author of Getting Out of Control: Emergent Leadership in a Complex World, for a conversation about AI policy, technology, systems, and complexity.
Chris and Neil begin by discussing technology, law, and policy, and how people who work in tech policy often reach very different conclusions while still trying to grapple with the same underlying issues. From there, the conversation turns to “bottom-up complex systems,” emergent order, and the idea that systems are often “more than the sum of the parts.”
They also explore the role of markets, manufacturing, and distributed knowledge, including the idea that “nobody controls that process,” even as systems continue adjusting to changing conditions and choices. Along the way, they discuss Hayek, metis, ant colonies, “I, Pencil,” and why the things that are easiest to measure “might not be the right things to measure.”
The episode closes with a broader conversation about education policy, tax policy, AI, and what it means to build systems that can respond to complexity rather than pretend it does not exist.
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